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    I’m done with elk and antelope. Seems like the deer hunts get fewer and crappier each year


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    Tell y'all what...I'll be considered a WY resident for the fall of 2020. Y'all can come out and hunt with me. Any designated wilderness area hunted by a non-res requires an outfitter or resident to escort.
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    Hi All, I'm confused on this process (moving to OK--Ft Sill--next week). Do I need to apply for one of these special lottery hunts to hunt deer on Ft Sill in addition to applying through all the post offices (outdoor rec, range safety, provost for firearms, etc)? I'm used to the lottery process in Colo: that's pretty FUBAR -- way back in day in 1999, I started collecting preference points for my big bull elk hunt hunt in 2009 when I retired from the military ... then, it was 10-12 points [aka years] for the area I wanted ... by then time 2009 rolled around and I was ready for my retirement hunt, the area had jumped to 20 points!!! Absurd, frankly. The good news was I found a place that required only 10 points and got a license for that and had a successful bull hunt in 2010 ... I won't wait another 10 years to hunt another bull tho, or even cows for that matter. Problem for me in OK as a new guy is I simply don't know the sweet public access spots to hunt in OK, so it'd be pretty silly for me to just randomly pick one and apply to it -- that's why I'm sticking to Ft Sill, and hoping that I can get on there and maybe find a deer or hog. Note that I have hunted on Eglin AFB in FLA, Ft Carson in CO, and Fort Lewis in WA state, all to little benefit. I hope Ft Sill is different, but what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result, right? The whole big game thing really frustrates me, so that's why I stick to doves and waterfowl, but that too is getting really difficult in Colo, and I'm waiting for a lottery system for that, too. And I refuse to pay an "outfitter" to take me hunting. I really hope OK is a different kind of place ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Rigaud View Post
    Hi All, I'm confused on this process (moving to OK--Ft Sill--next week). Do I need to apply for one of these special lottery hunts to hunt deer on Ft Sill in addition to applying through all the post offices (outdoor rec, range safety, provost for firearms, etc)? I'm used to the lottery process in Colo: that's pretty FUBAR -- way back in day in 1999, I started collecting preference points for my big bull elk hunt hunt in 2009 when I retired from the military ... then, it was 10-12 points [aka years] for the area I wanted ... by then time 2009 rolled around and I was ready for my retirement hunt, the area had jumped to 20 points!!! Absurd, frankly. The good news was I found a place that required only 10 points and got a license for that and had a successful bull hunt in 2010 ... I won't wait another 10 years to hunt another bull tho, or even cows for that matter. Problem for me in OK as a new guy is I simply don't know the sweet public access spots to hunt in OK, so it'd be pretty silly for me to just randomly pick one and apply to it -- that's why I'm sticking to Ft Sill, and hoping that I can get on there and maybe find a deer or hog. Note that I have hunted on Eglin AFB in FLA, Ft Carson in CO, and Fort Lewis in WA state, all to little benefit. I hope Ft Sill is different, but what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result, right? The whole big game thing really frustrates me, so that's why I stick to doves and waterfowl, but that too is getting really difficult in Colo, and I'm waiting for a lottery system for that, too. And I refuse to pay an "outfitter" to take me hunting. I really hope OK is a different kind of place ........
    I'm not sure of all the regulations for Ft Sill, but we have folks on here that do. They will check in shortly I'm sure.
    The Oklahoma Draw system is not a true preference point system. You do accumulate a point per year for elk, another for deer, another for turkey and so on depending on the categories of the draw hunts and the hunts are subject to different locations every year depending on the needs for special hunts to control the population.
    When you get two points, your name is put in twice for the annual draw. If you don't get drawn, you get another point. The next year your name is put in three times, and so on.
    If you put in with a group of hunters, your chances are improved because if any one in the group gets drawn, the entire group goes. When you get drawn, you lose all preference points and have to start all over again.
    Its all about the luck of the draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Rigaud View Post
    Hi All, I'm confused on this process (moving to OK--Ft Sill--next week). Do I need to apply for one of these special lottery hunts to hunt deer on Ft Sill in addition to applying through all the post offices (outdoor rec, range safety, provost for firearms, etc)? I'm used to the lottery process in Colo: that's pretty FUBAR -- way back in day in 1999, I started collecting preference points for my big bull elk hunt hunt in 2009 when I retired from the military ... then, it was 10-12 points [aka years] for the area I wanted ... by then time 2009 rolled around and I was ready for my retirement hunt, the area had jumped to 20 points!!! Absurd, frankly. The good news was I found a place that required only 10 points and got a license for that and had a successful bull hunt in 2010 ... I won't wait another 10 years to hunt another bull tho, or even cows for that matter. Problem for me in OK as a new guy is I simply don't know the sweet public access spots to hunt in OK, so it'd be pretty silly for me to just randomly pick one and apply to it -- that's why I'm sticking to Ft Sill, and hoping that I can get on there and maybe find a deer or hog. Note that I have hunted on Eglin AFB in FLA, Ft Carson in CO, and Fort Lewis in WA state, all to little benefit. I hope Ft Sill is different, but what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result, right? The whole big game thing really frustrates me, so that's why I stick to doves and waterfowl, but that too is getting really difficult in Colo, and I'm waiting for a lottery system for that, too. And I refuse to pay an "outfitter" to take me hunting. I really hope OK is a different kind of place ........
    As Dennis said stay tuned for more info on Ft Sill. babe aka Rick hunts and fishes it and lives in Lawton. I'm my 10 years in OK I never took the time to hunt it. Had other public lands round I liked and was successful on. Yu will be able to hunt deer, elk, hogs, turkey, waterfowl and other critters on the base. I've seen elk many many times on the base. I seen hogs and elk in the same fields at the same time.
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    Are the “non-draw” public lands any good in the S or SE Oklahoma? Is baiting illegal on public lands?


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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightWayOutdoors View Post
    Are the “non-draw” public lands any good in the S or SE Oklahoma? Is baiting illegal on public lands?


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    You can not bait on any state or federal owned lands. I've never hunted the SE (Altus region) but contacting a biologist should get you some answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Rigaud View Post
    Hi All, I'm confused on this process (moving to OK--Ft Sill--next week). Do I need to apply for one of these special lottery hunts to hunt deer on Ft Sill in addition to applying through all the post offices (outdoor rec, range safety, provost for firearms, etc)? I'm used to the lottery process in Colo: that's pretty FUBAR -- way back in day in 1999, I started collecting preference points for my big bull elk hunt hunt in 2009 when I retired from the military ... then, it was 10-12 points [aka years] for the area I wanted ... by then time 2009 rolled around and I was ready for my retirement hunt, the area had jumped to 20 points!!! Absurd, frankly. The good news was I found a place that required only 10 points and got a license for that and had a successful bull hunt in 2010 ... I won't wait another 10 years to hunt another bull tho, or even cows for that matter. Problem for me in OK as a new guy is I simply don't know the sweet public access spots to hunt in OK, so it'd be pretty silly for me to just randomly pick one and apply to it -- that's why I'm sticking to Ft Sill, and hoping that I can get on there and maybe find a deer or hog. Note that I have hunted on Eglin AFB in FLA, Ft Carson in CO, and Fort Lewis in WA state, all to little benefit. I hope Ft Sill is different, but what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result, right? The whole big game thing really frustrates me, so that's why I stick to doves and waterfowl, but that too is getting really difficult in Colo, and I'm waiting for a lottery system for that, too. And I refuse to pay an "outfitter" to take me hunting. I really hope OK is a different kind of place ........
    I foot to mention.........The state does not do any draw hunts for the base. The base runs its own program. I do believe that the elk nd deer do have some sort of draw system. I do now they have a waiting period if successful before you can apply again.
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    thanks for all the info -- I appreciate it much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightWayOutdoors View Post
    Are the “non-draw” public lands any good in the S or SE Oklahoma? Is baiting illegal on public lands?


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    There is lots of good public hunting in SE Oklahoma. Weyerhaeuser lumber company has thousands of acres they allow hunting on. Not sure if there is a small fee. Hanobia, etc.
    On our hunting forum page there is a list of the public hunting areas that we maintain on this forum.
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