I don't know to me the cartridge doesn't look any different than the 6.5 to me.

 

Another solution to a problem that didn’t exist, but as I’ve said before, hunters and shooters are some of the most gullible people in the world. That being said, it’ll probably be the greatest thing since sliced bread on the internet until the next latest greatest whiz-bang caliber.

 

I’m predicting the .22 Creedmoor is the next greatest caliber.

 

25 Creedmoor vs 25-06?

Differences?

 

Probably short action so it will load in the AR platform?

 

The .25 Creed has been a wildcat for a while. Guys who like it claim that it splits the difference between the 6 and 6.5mm...but that is splitting hairs for me. The 25 offers a 134(?) gr bullet, where you can get the same bullet in 130 or 140gr by just stepping up a whopping .007 in diameter. No noticeable recoil advantage then either...Hornady's guys are not being truthful there.

The .257 bullet selection is significantly limited when compared to other diameters as well. Especially in heavier target bullets where the .25 CM is about the only player. No thanks.

Still a bigger fan of the 6 Creemoor over the others.

Yes @dennishoddy , you can get it to chamber in a large frame AR.

 

 

Market: "Hey Hornady, what can you do to reduce lot-to-lot variation in your bullets, as well as reduce the ES/SD in certain lots of factory ammo (because they suck)?"

Hornady: "Best I can do is to standardize the 25 Creedmoor".

 

Watched ~15 minutes of the Hornady podcast of them essentially doing an hour-long informercial (like all of their other podcasts).

Their words: 140gr ELD-M factory in the 6.5CM = 6.1 ft/lbs recoil energy
134gr ELD-M factory in the .25CM = 5.9 ft/lbs recoil energy

At 500 yards the difference is negligible. At 1K yards, the .25 has .2 mils less wind deflection...

Color me unenthused, and I play with more cartridges than 95% of the dudes out there.

 

I just can't leave well enough alone sometimes.

.25 Creedmoor / 134gr ELD-M at their advertised velocity of 2,800 FPS = 6.9lb recoil energy.
.260 Remington / 130gr ELD-M at 2,820 FPS = 7.0lb recoil energy.
.260 Remington / 135gr A-Tip at 2,800 FPS = 7.3lb recoil energy.
(15lb rifles and all data included).

^ If you can tell the difference, I've got a bridge to sell you in Arizona. And guess how much of a difference the above makes at 500 yards... That 134gr ELD-M and 135gr A-Tip are really stinking close.

Some guys are raving about how great it is. I see those guys are wearing Hornady shirts though. I don't see the .25CM doing anything that the .260 Reminton can't do.

 

I wish I knew something about these caliber but grand son shoots a 6.5 pro and it’s a very good round me I shoot browning 26 westerner

 

I’ll stick with my 6.5 Swede

 

Been playing with the .260 Remington lately myself. I'm over 2,800 FPS with the 130gr Norma, and was right at it with the 130gr ELD-M...but my barrel is speeding up at the moment as I'm breaking it in.

1/2 minute out to 250 with the Norma, and about 2/3 minute at 650 with the Hornady. There's a lot more velocity on the table, but this is where she's shooting best at.

 

I'm so bored of these new cartridges: 6arc, 22arc, 22 creedmoor, 6 creedmoor, 25 creedmoor...etc.

It's like some engineer at Hornady is shitting his pants trying to validate his job, by coming up with the next cartridge every month.

 

This is how they have determined how they make money. I'm not on board.

I've lost a lot of respect for their business practices lately. From their straight copying of Sierra and Berger bullets (but built with less quality and are cheaper) with the "Aeromatch", to their absolute copying of the Henderson with their 3-way trimmer.

Plus, they have long had an issue with their ELD-M bullets spinning apart (before other manufacturers)...you can make any cup and core bullet come apart if you spin it fast enough, but Hornady dang sure does it sooner.

I like their cost, and I love the terminal performance results of the SST out of my pig guns... But I'm just so tired of their next best thing that is 98% of what their last best thing did.

They are a marketing company now that makes bullets/ammunition, not the other way around. I'd love to see some Sierra, Nosler, Barnes, etc... podcasts. Hornady needs a little competition there.

 

I’ll most likely never buy one but it is pretty neat seeing what they come up with

 

I may be old school but I'll just stick with what I got my old reliable 30-06. I'm not interested in these new cartridges that they are coming out with.

 

My last two acquisitions contradict the ballistic efficiency trend. A 357mag and now a 44mag carbine. I picked up a Remlin 1894 on Friday. I also just bought a case of 308win so I won't be affording any new cartridges any time soon.

 

45lc carbine for me. Still haven’t fired it, guess I’m boring.

 

I like my early Ruger 44 mag semi auto carbine. It’s not a long range tack driver by any means but a 2” MODeer at 100 yards with 2100fps velocity is more than enough gun for just about anything.
Then came by a JM stamped Marlin 336C in .45 LC that’s a fun gun to shoot as well.