[rfreeman]

My friends who have been nice enough to let me hunt on there private land here in Oregon, told me last week that they lost some chickens to coyotes. They asked me to come out and do some shooting. I gladly obliged them. This mourning I called some in under 75 yards to me. I picked the biggest one in the crowd and lined up my scope on its throat just at the base of its neck It was facing me so I dd not have a choice. I squeezed the triger and the coyote flipped head over heels and landed on its back. I got to say I was using a 30.06 with 180 grain rounds. I wanted to make a point Off the rest of the pack goes a running. I shot at two of them but no luck. Damn these things can run. So I go over to my coyote to take a look at the carnage. The bullet went into the base of the neck and came out the left rear leg. Not much left of the leg either. So after hunting I gutted it and all the organs were like jello.I forgot how much these things stink. Ive decided to make a hat of the fur. Should keep me nice and warm next winter. ;D My wife is worried I will wear it around town.

 

[dennishoddy]

Awsome hunt! You definitely made your point on that yote. ;D ;D

I've found out that offering to cull some predators, can get you pretty easy permission. Rabbit hunting is the same way. Not many people rabbit hunt, and readily give permission to hunt. It opens the door for interaction with the land owner, that can lead to bigger and better things.

 

[rfreeman]

I know what you mean about opening doors to other things. I just recently got access to my friends neigbors properties too. They found out I was willing to hunt coyote and they asked me to hunt there land as well. So now Ive got over 100 acres to hunt coyote and big game all to myself. Lifes rough

 

[dennishoddy]

Lifes rough

Ya, you really got it rough ;D

 

[Bird (this time)]

Gotta luv seeing a 'yote flippin head over heels. Use to be a Huey crew chief and we'd alway tried to be the first chopper to the range in the mornings so I could open up on what ever was on the range. 'yotes were the best when chased down with a M-60.

 

[rfreeman]

I imagine they just desentegrated with the rounds from an m-60. Must have enjoyed watching a red mist in the air appear were a coyote once was. Kinda reminds me of when I was in the persian gulf we would lob grenades off our RIB boats and just pick up the fish as they came to the surface.

 

[dennishoddy]

Gotta luv seeing a 'yote flippin head over heels. Use to be a Huey crew chief and we'd alway tried to be the first chopper to the range in the mornings so I could open up on what ever was on the range. 'yotes were the best when chased down with a M-60.

I had basic training at Ft Camble Ky
One day after a 12 mile forced march, we were at the rifle range, and had about 50 people ready to shoot their M-16's. A beautiful 10 point buck walked out on the 250 meter range at the same time the range master called fire. that buck went up into a red mist and jello as everybody aimed at him in full rock and roll. the range master was screaming cease fire at the top of his lungs on the microphone, but nobody listened.

Probably shouldn't talk about the critters overseas that got shot.

Oh, what the heck, I was on a Long Range patrol, with a half dozen ARVN's and a Montanarg scout. We were lost, and out of food, when we came on a water buffalo with a horn spread of about 6'. The ARVN's unloaded their M16's on it which resulted in one PO'D buffalo. It was running around chasing them in an area where there were no trees to climb, and was almost funny until it came at me. My M-16A1 had an M-79 grenade launcher underneath, and I had an HE round in it. Hit that guy right between the eyes at about 20 yds. The only thing left was the back of his skull, and looked like it had been cleaned and washed.

I have the pic at my moms house if I can find it, I'll post it here. ;D

 

[dennishoddy]

I imagine they just desentegrated with the rounds from an m-60. Must have enjoyed watching a red mist in the air appear were a coyote once was. Kinda reminds me of when I was in the persian gulf we would lob grenades off our RIB boats and just pick up the fish as they came to the surface.

We tried that in Korea where I was stationed on an isolated microwave site. We found a pool on a mountain stream and chunked a grenade in there. Nothing happened, but I'm thinking there wasn't enough left to recover. ;D

 

[Bird (this time)]

Now that had to be some funny stuff with the M79. I'd of liked to seen that 'cept for being that close to a PO'd waterbuff.

 

[rfreeman]

The trick was to use concusion grenades. Little fishies would just float on up to the surface. Some times we would see some really wierd looking fish we left those ones alone. Never know what is poisonouse. So we stuck with familiar fish.

 

[tulsahunter]

Can we open a new discussion sesseion

Hunting & Fishing with Extreme Weapons

We will call it XHunting

LOL


hehehehe

Michael

 

[dennishoddy]

The trick was to use concusion grenades. Little fishies would just float on up to the surface. Some times we would see some really wierd looking fish we left those ones alone. Never know what is poisonouse. So we stuck with familiar fish.

Dang, now you tell me :'( All we carried was frags and smoke. :'(

 

[rfreeman]

We carried those too, We carried concussion grenades because sometimes we had to recover a friendly or a person of interest, and they were usually surrounded by unfriendlies that we had to deal with first. We would open the hatch and toss in a CG nock the [email protected]#t out of everyone inside and go in and sort them out with our knives. Sometims I just sit back and smile when I think of it. ;D

 

[Bird (this time)]

Ahhh, the good old days, when wars were held in places where you could have a drink and a hootch maid and you didn't have to worry about insulting the locals.

 

[dennishoddy]

Ahhh, the good old days, when wars were held in places where you could have a drink and a hootch maid and you didn't have to worry about insulting the locals.

Your giving up our secrets buddy.

 

[rfreeman]

Even worse than offending the locals we had to worry about offending the news media and the left wing nut cases back home. That was in the early 90's. I can only imagine what these kids have to worry about now. I wish they would kick the media out of the battle field and let our boys and girls do there jobs. Victory by atrition forget about winning the hearts and minds and take out the enemy.

 

[tulsahunter]

Even worse than offending the locals we had to worry about offending the news media and the left wing nut cases back home. That was in the early 90's. I can only imagine what these kids have to worry about now. I wish they would kick the media out of the battle field and let our boys and girls do there jobs. Victory by atrition forget about winning the hearts and minds and take out the enemy.

I have never heard it said better

Michael

 

[dennishoddy]

Even worse than offending the locals we had to worry about offending the news media and the left wing nut cases back home. That was in the early 90's. I can only imagine what these kids have to worry about now. I wish they would kick the media out of the battle field and let our boys and girls do there jobs. Victory by attrition forget about winning the hearts and minds and take out the enemy.

Whoever had the stupid idea of "embedding" somebody from the media into a combat unit has to have their heads examined.
In my day, anybody with "credentials" from whatever rag they reported to, could come to Nam and have free reign over what unit, company, platoon they wanted to go with, and "report" the war.

It was the war as they saw it, not as a trained combat professional that had a job to do. They caused lives of American soldiers to be lost as the commanders at whatever level made sure that they made the current mission that was being covered by the media to be "clean". When things went to hell in a handbasket and they were around, the things that had to happen to make sure our soldiers did not suffer any losses were counted as "brutality". People die in a war. Innocent people suffer, and sometimes there is nothing that anybody can to to prevent that. Its how war is done.

The first Gulf War with the surgical Strikes on the infrastructure, conditioned the American public to thinking this how the wars of the future are going to be fought. Pound them into submission with airpower, and they will submit. Guess what, there were people just like us working in those power plants, factory's, etc. Well, it backfired. Now when the dirty part of the war commences with our men, and women soldiers having to go house to house, and street by street, their every move covered by a biased media, and you get the inevitable civilian causality's(most caused by insurgents that use the civilians for cover, and melt into them after a strike), the stinking left wing, tree hugging, (*&%%$# news media have nothing else to report, but that an individual soldier, that in the heat of combat, just might have shot somebody that was a threat, exhibited all the mannerisms of a threat, but unfortunately was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and they want to prosecute that soldier?? I'm sorry..that's the unfortunate part of war.

Sorry about my rant, but this subject is one of the one of the few things that can cause my personal trigger to trip.
Journalism as we understood it is dead.

 

[rfreeman]

If we stopped ranting then the left wing would really screw things up. Freedom of speech is designed in my humble opinion to allow folks like us to state our opinions I don't think it was intended for the media to put our soldiers at risk. I think if our forfathers would have known how wacked out people have gotten about things they would have been more detailed in the original documents that founded our country. Dennis the topic of the media in combat gets my blood boiling to high as well. Fortunatly when we went out we went out in the cover of night, and FORGOT to wake up the idiot news reporter that was supposed to go with us. ;D Then we got back we would say absolutely nothing to him. Wed get our buts reemed but at least we didn't get them shot off, due to the untrained idiot that was assigned to us. We went out of our way to make life absolutely miserable for him. Puting critters in his bag, dumping his shampoo out and putting nair hair removal in its place, tieing him to his rack, and many other things. He eventually got the hell out of dodge, leaving us to do our job. You know nothing we did was ever reported either. Probably becasue some body told him that we knew where he lived.

 

[Bird (this time)]

Do you all find it stange that every quadrinnial defense review gets the future needs of the military totally bassakwards. I remember being told that the future of war was quick in quick out, all from the air and technology would win the day. No more armies of occupation on the ground for extended periods of time. Oooops.