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For coyotes and stuff of course.

After the abysmal results of the 120gr Scenar-L a couple months ago on a coyote, I wanted to try a different bullet.

I had shot a coyote with a perfect double lung broadside at 258 yards (6.5x47L), and while he was anchored (success in that regard) he survived at least another minute+ and another shot. So the 120gr Scenar-L got shelved. Impact entrance at blue dot.
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Currently, I've been working with the 130gr ELD-M. I have found a good current sweet spot regarding accuracy...but this Brux barrel is about ~30 FPS slower than my Krieger. So while I was hoping for top accuracy above 2,700 FPS, I'm a touch under it.
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However, the low drag of the bullet means I'm still above 2,000 FPS at 400 yards, which is my personal limit shooting at living things in a hasty setup in a non-range environment...so it'll work (for now).

Tested them at a little bit of distance (300) and the accuracy held up (just under half-MOA for 5 shots).
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The cool part for me is that both the zero and 300 yard drop data is within a tenth mil of my 120gr Scenar-L load. So I don't have to mess with swapping zeros and adjusting turrets. Here is a followup group shot the next day with the 120gr Scenar-L load at 300 as well (I hadn't adjusted the scope):
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Will I ever put this 130gr ELD-M to use? Who knows. With my luck I'll probably not run into another canine for six months...and then be carrying something else when it does happen. However, I'm curious to see how this bullet will do.

Thanks for reading.
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Dang nice groups on the new bullet choice. Impressive actually.
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When I had a 6.5G, I hunted some hogs with the Hornady Black load using the 123gr ELD-M. Almost unreal damage on smaller hogs, especially if I hit bone, I always liked to aim right on the shoulder. On 100lb and under it was tearing them to pieces, bout ripped a couple shoulders off. Mid body shots would punch the guts out of some of them. On the larger hogs, just really nice entrance and exit wounds.

I'll attach one of the few post-mortem pics I took with the 6.5G using that load. This one was Texas heart shot running away and when she slowed I got a broadside shot that dropped it. In the pic, it about ripped part of the leg off on the exit side. I was pretty impressed. That was a high shoulder entrance, low chest exit, striking the leg on the way out. That was about 50+/- yards.

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When I had a 6.5G, I hunted some hogs with the Hornady Black load using the 123gr ELD-M. Almost unreal damage on smaller hogs, especially if I hit bone, I always liked to aim right on the shoulder. On 100lb and under it was tearing them to pieces, bout ripped a couple shoulders off. Mid body shots would punch the guts out of some of them. On the larger hogs, just really nice entrance and exit wounds.

I'll attach one of the few post-mortem pics I took with the 6.5G using that load. This one was Texas heart shot running away and when she slowed I got a broadside shot that dropped it. In the pic, it about ripped part of the leg off on the exit side. I was pretty impressed. That was a high shoulder entrance, low chest exit, striking the leg on the way out. That was about 50+/- yards.
Looks like it did a good job. Thanks for sharing.

My buddy Brian had pretty solid results out of the Grendel with 123gr ELD-Ms as well.

I'm anxious to see how (actually, Im not really) the 130gr do at the velocity im pushing them at. I figure as long as I'm above 2K FPS that I ought to have acceptable terminal performance. That's a touch past 400 yards...but my self-imposed limit is going to be 400.
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For a match bullet, I was pretty darned impressed on the terminal performance. I'm sure the jacket/core completely separated, but in terms of damage, it worked for sure. That was a 16" barrel Grendel so that might help you get a feel for the approx. velocity they were travelling.

Speaking of match bullets and hunting, the 73gr ELD-M in .223 anchors coyotes too. I probably already shared this in a diff. post, but I had several one-shot drops on coyotes, even tumbled a few while running using that bullet in a factory Hornady load. Both of those experiences really changed my perception of what match bullets can do on game.
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For a match bullet, I was pretty darned impressed on the terminal performance. I'm sure the jacket/core completely separated, but in terms of damage, it worked for sure. That was a 16" barrel Grendel so that might help you get a feel for the approx. velocity they were travelling.

Speaking of match bullets and hunting, the 73gr ELD-M in .223 anchors coyotes too. I probably already shared this in a diff. post, but I had several one-shot drops on coyotes, even tumbled a few while running using that bullet in a factory Hornady load. Both of those experiences really changed my perception of what match bullets can do on game.
I would trust an ELD to come apart much more than I would an OTM, like the SMK. I've had some epic failures with the SMK and comparable bullets. Only time will tell. *

I'd like to caveat off of that though by stating that if you can push an OTM fast enough or hit bone, they will certainly come apart in devastating fashion.

Usually though, they need a lot of distance in tissue before the bullet noses over and a big wound channel is developed. I see a lot of guys boasting about exit wounds of match bullets...and oblong hole pictures to go with them. That's nothing more than the bullet exiting sideways.

* FWIW: I think I've found every animal I've shot with an OTM. It's just been weeks later, and they made it 200+ yards after taking a good boiler room shot. Several coyotes come to mind here.
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Well...that didn't take long to test 😄.

Results for the 130gr ELD-M were quite impressive, but it was a rather close shot.
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82.5 yards. The girls came running into the bedroom to yell that there was a coyote in the pasture.

I gathered my rifle and went for a walk. Saw it ~300 yards off in a hay meadow as it was hunting towards some trees that were between us. I got on a knee and started lip squeaking. 2 minutes later the darn thing squirted out in front of me.

All I had was essentially a neck shot in the tall grass...so that's what I took. It had quite the pop report of the bullet hitting.

No entry hole, but I bet you could fit a tangerine or maybe a racketball under the exit hole. The exit was maybe 1.5"x1".

Blown out hair everywhere in the grass. Just how I like it. 😄

Now to try this again at 250+.

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That’s some dadgum carnage and didn’t take long at all! You’ve taught your girls well sounding the alarm like they done. That things sure got a pretty coat, well on the one side at least.
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Nice shot! The girls seem pleased with it as well.
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Nice shot! The girls seem pleased with it as well.
They have always enjoyed coming out to see the kills and look at the carnage. They even come by from time to time to watch their momma perform a surgery. At least I know they won't be squeamish later in life.
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They have always enjoyed coming out to see the kills and look at the carnage. They even come by from time to time to watch their momma perform a surgery. At least I know they won't be squeamish later in life.
My sons watched many dissections of game. It never bothered them.
Later on, I was part of a neighbors DMAP program to control does.
He asked If I could help guide some kids and a parent for a doe kill.
Did it for 5 or so years, taking them to my blind.
When they got the animals down, they were not grossed out, just curious while being field dressed. During the process, I'd point out the organs and so on as an educational deal.
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That's the way to do it Dennis!
Nice groupings and nice DRT yote.
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