I would like to get yalls feelings on spikes. I am old school and was brought up believing that ounce a spike always a spike.
I understand that todays thinking from the outdoor writers is that a spike will grow out of it,
What do yall think?
My grand father taught me what I knew about hunting..His thoughts were this..if it's legal and it's for food shoot it.. If it's not for food then shoot does and mature bucks and let the young ones live to grow another season.
I tend to associate them with young deer more often then not but I don't just look at that when deciding if it's a young or mature deer. if it's a spike and it's a mature deer then yeah shoot em..but if it's obviously a young spike then I tend to lean towards letting em go unless like I said it's to put food on the table. I should have clarified that better..
It depends on the aera you hunt.
I've seen some bucks between 2-2 1/2 years old that are still spikes yet have more mass & length to the spike every year.By the 3rd year if that same buck is still a spike shoot him & call it good.
Food,habitat & water play big rolls to growing antlers.
Me personally on shooting a spike.
If he looks around 130 pounds on the hoof / smoke him !!!
I love to eat deer.
Yet my rules are.
Bucks have got to be around 130 lbs.
Antler points don't matter to me.
If you spend anuff time in woods you will eventually kill a nice big multi pointed buck.
Doe's got be close 100 pounds.
My thoughts on spikes, if he looks to be older than a couple of years old and still a spike, he's toast. I've seen some spikes that had some pretty thick and long daggers so he's had time to grow out of it. If it's a young one that has a couple of pencils comming out of his skull, I'll give him another chance at growing some good head gear.
Does, unless I see a lil one still suckin' on momma, she's toast.
Definition of "toast"= I'll attempt to take said animal, thus the laws of Birds luck kick in and the animal is still realitivly safe.
I've seen several studies of spike deer. What the "experts" say is that a young spike is typically one that was concieved during the second rut. Bucks that were concieved during the first rut in Nov will normally have fork horns or maybe a small 6 point. Any deer that is 2 1/2 yrs or older that still has a spike will grow up as a spike. They showed pics of a young spike as he was growing(captive deer). He developed into a trophy deer in his 4th year. On our DMAP the Okla wildlife biologist tell us to take the mature does. Their first year they will produce a single fawn. If the buck to doe ratio is good it will be a buck. When a doe matures, she starts putting out twins, and will almost always be doe fawns. This is info from the biologist, not my personal opinion. Right now on our DMAP we have a 56-1 doe to buck ratio, and a 86-1 doe to fawn ratio. We improved on the doe to buck, but lost ground on the doe to fawn.
On opening weekend Blackpowder I saw two bucks hanging out togiether. One was a fork horn and the other was what I'm told is a cow horn. The cow horn was a really long spike. His spikes were between 8" to 12" long. He had no mass, the horn's were about as big around as my pinky fingure. We think he should grow into something big.